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>Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:52:20 +0200
>
>Hi .....,
>
>Here is the answer from ABIT.
>The solution for the moment is to set the CPU shutdown temperature to 95 C.
>
>......
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bernard Lam
> To: .........
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 10:49 AM
> Subject: Fw: URGENT - need technical assistance.
>
>
> Dear .......:
> Here is the explanation and report for the thermal problem. We do
>have confidence that the temperature show on the board is safe and stable.
>Please see below for more detail explanation.
> Thanks
> Bernard Lam
> ABIT Computer Corp.
> www.abit.com.tw
> (886) 2-8751-8888 ext. 1542
> (886) 2-8751-3382
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tommy Yang
> To: 'Bernard Lam'
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:56 PM
> Subject: RE: URGENT - need technical assistance.
>
>
> Dear Bernard,
>
>
>
> After speaking with our R&D engineers, we found out the surface
>temperature is around 10~15 degree lower, therefore if we are going to
>change the BIOS temperature to meet the surface temperature, then we will
>encounter some problem when Core temperature goes up. Regarding this
>temperature issue, we will arrange a more detail test on it.
>
>
>
> Below is our statement for you reference.
>
>
>
> The way CPU temperature measured in the BIOS or in the hardware monitor
>is through an I/O chip on the motherboard. That I/O chip probes a voltage
>given by the CPU thermal diode, and then BIOS / hardware monitor reads this
>value and uses some mathematical way to calculate the approximate
>temperature. According to Intel, there is another temperature sensing
>diode, which is responsible for the CPU overheating protection. When the
>CPU junction temperature reaches approximately 135 degrees Celsius, the
>processor will turn down itself. That is, we can say the CPU is quite safe
>if it is less then 135 degrees Celsius.
>
>
>
> Since the temperature is "calculated", not "measured", the formula which
>the BIOS uses will make the outcome different. There is a parameter that is
>provided by the I/O chip vender, which we expect it to be the standard, so
>we use this parameter to calculate the temperature of the processor. Once
>this parameter in the BIOS is changed, the temperature shown in the BIOS PC
>health or in the hardware monitor tool will be altered. But, in the mean
>time, the actual temperature of the CPU is still the same. So the
>temperature you saw might be higher comparing to other motherboard with the
>same chipset, it is because we use the different parameter to calculate the
>temperature. We cannot say that we are more accurate, but we sure follow
>the standard provided by the I/O chip vender, and we believe it should be
>the proper one.
>
>
>
> The "CPU Shutdown Temperature" in "PC Health Status" page could be
>enabled and set to 90 degrees C. In case there are something wrong with the
>system like CPU fan stops or drops off from CPU retention unit, the ACPI
>compatible operation system could shut down itself to prevent the system
>crash and other damages. But, if the operation system fails to shut down,
>there still be a final insurance that CPU will turn itself down at 135
>degrees C and the system will be powered off immediately.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tommy, 3/05/2004
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Bernard Lam [mailto:bernard_lam@abit.com.tw]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 7:07 PM
> To: ........
> Cc: tommy@abit.com.tw
> Subject: Re: URGENT - need technical assistance.
>
>
>
> Dear ........:
>
> I already talk to the technician personally.
>
> There are some factors that he want me to clarify with you first,
>
> Can you check if the CPU heatsink thermal paste is apply on the heatsink
>and the heatsink has been securely attached on the board on the CPU?
>Please try to put on some thermal paste on the heatsink and give it a try
>and see if the temperature will go down.
>
> There is some heatsink that has been approved by Intel for the Prescott
>CPU, where the air flowing should be 4 ways out instead of two ways as the
>one you are using right now, do you have any CPU heatsink which is like
>what I descript?
>
> From his information, I already understand that out 865 series
>motherboard temperature will running higher than the other because we are
>using the Winbond Chip for the Bios which will give a higher temperature on
>the reading of the CPU. I understand that the other two board did not have
>the similar reading as us, but what we are going to do is; within tomorrow,
>we will do a testing report just for you regarding on this 3 motherboard,
>because we do have the CPU and all this 3 motherboards on hand, where we
>will do a complete testing on the 3 boards and either find out a solution
>for you or give you a report on the stability of the board with this
>temperature.
>
> From the data that our FAE has on the IS7 series motherboard, all of
>them are running at around 65 no more than 70 with the Prescott CPU, but as
>you mentioned below on over to 90, we will definitely give you a
>explanation on why and how we can manage this for you.
>
> Please give us sometime and we will give you a detail explanation or
>solution in the morning. Thanks.
>
> Bernard Lam
> ABIT Computer Corp.
> www.abit.com.tw
> (886) 2-8751-8888 ext. 1542
> (886) 2-8751-3382
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: .......
>
> To: Bernard Lam
>
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 1:24 AM
>
> Subject: Re: URGENT - need technical assistance.
>
>
>
> Hi Bernard,
>
>
>
> Me again.
>
> This time i have a picture of the problem.
>
>
>
> The CPU temp is 70 Degrees from the Bios.
>
> The CPU Temp in the heat sink is 48 Degrees.
>
> The CPU CORE VOLTAGE IS 1.34V !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> THIS IS NOT NORMAL VOLTAGE TO OUR OPINION ANT IT
>
> MIGHT BE THE REASON FOR THE WARMING PROBLEM.
>
>
>
> I NEED AN URGENT ADVICE - OTHERWISE I AM STUCK WITH 500pcs
>
> Of worthless Abit MB.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>........
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Bernard Lam
>
> To: .....
>
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:43 AM
>
> Subject: Re: URGENT - need technical assistance.
>
>
>
> Dear .....:
>
> Regarding Prescott temperature issue, please refer to our FAQ as
>below.
>
> http://fae.abit.com.tw/eng/faq/qa/2004/2004021702.htm
>
> If don't please give us more detail on your configration and the
>brand of your perherial.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Bernard Lam
> ABIT Computer Corp.
> www.abit.com.tw
> (886) 2-8751-8888 ext. 1542
> (886) 2-8751-3382
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: ......
>
> To: Bernard Lam
>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:08 AM
>
> Subject: URGENT - need technical assistance.
>
>
>
> Hi Bernard,
>
>
>
> I have a terrible problem and need your technical help.
>
> We started to assemble a new line with the new prescott CPU P4
>2.8E.
>
> We seem to have a terrible problem with the heat of the CPU !!!!!!
>
> The IS7-V MB is giving me warming alert on 90 degree C.
>
> This is very urgent .
>
>
>
> Do you have any knowledge.
>
>
>
> Please advise.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>4to skajete teper':?


S@D

S@D Интересный случай, а главное - жизненный. Я вот здесь обобщил историю вопроса: http://www.overclockers.ru/news/newsite ... 1078849094

гыгы

одно из двух...

или они хотели сказать, что если дачтик на МБ покажет 135, то это нормально, потому что датчик кривой (скорее всего, но звучит странно)
или там сидят полные ламеры, что вряд ли

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Т.е. в процессоре есть два термодиода, один для системного мониторинга, а второй для аварийного отключения при 135 градусах. Удобна на мой взгляд двойная подстрахова, если материнка не сможет вовремя отреагировать на термосенсор, то проц сам себя отключит чуть позже.




Разный чип мониторинга может снимать температуру с диода по-своему. Отсюда материнские платы оснащёные разными чипами будут показывать разную температуру. АБИТ говорит что их показания хоть и не супер точные, но наиболее правдоподобные по сравнению с другими.

Горячие прескоты, горячие.