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  Hil
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Регистрация: 16.12.2002
Откуда: TSC! | Москва
Обсуждаем проект Folding@Home.
Номер нашей команды: 47191
Страница регистрации в проекте F@H: https://apps.foldingathome.org/getpasskey Обязательна для получения бонусных очков
По вопросам работы универсального клиента обращайтесь в соответствующие ветки:
Универсальный (SMP+GPU) клиент v.7
Folding@Home под Linux
Статистика заданий и рекорды команды: [F@H] Статистика заданий
В этой ветке все о мониторинге клиента FAH http://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic ... 1&t=122378
Статусы основных серверов F@h: https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats
Список текущих проектов: https://apps.foldingathome.org/psummary?visibility=ALL
Статистика команды на сайте extremeoverclocking.com: https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com ... s=&t=47191
Статистика по общему количеству CPU\GPU, мощности проекта: https://stats.foldingathome.org/os
Статистика по отдельным картам и процессорам в проекте: https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/overall_ranks
Официальный форум проекта: https://foldingforum.org
Мы в Telegram - https://t.me/TSCRussia


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  Yura12

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targitaj писал(а):
Yura12 писал(а):
Пришло задание для ядра "b4". Скачалось новое ядро FahCore_b4.exe и задание для него.200000 шагов. 25 Мб в ОЗУ.

Может, оно у меня сглючило? Странно это все.


А у меня прошло уже 10% и памяти по прежнему занято 25 Мб. А виртуальной - 17 Мб.

Да уж. Получается у этих заданий PPD ровно в 5 раз больше, чем у 225-очковых громаксов.

Во какая скорость на CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz

[17:43:13] Completed 0 out of 200000 steps (0)
[17:49:10] Completed 2000 out of 200000 steps (1)
[17:54:38] Completed 4000 out of 200000 steps (2)
[18:00:56] Completed 6000 out of 200000 steps (3)
[18:07:02] Completed 8000 out of 200000 steps (4)
[18:13:07] Completed 10000 out of 200000 steps (5)
[18:19:18] Completed 12000 out of 200000 steps (6)
[18:24:44] Completed 14000 out of 200000 steps (7)
[18:30:14] Completed 16000 out of 200000 steps (8)
[18:35:54] Completed 18000 out of 200000 steps (9)
[18:41:28] Completed 20000 out of 200000 steps (10)

Однако, помните, как в октябре этого года b4 задания были глючные, забивали 100% процессора (причём не на IDLE приоритете, а на высоком) и ничего не считали, и при этом блокировали WSUS (про это я уже рассказывал в соседних ветках форума в октябре).

Но будем надеяться, что они уже все эти ошибки исправили.

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  Behc

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letoon
Действительно странный... Особенно с учетом того, что FahSpy обсуждается в другой теме и сегодня вышла новая версия 2.0.0....

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  GoLeM_LI

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Behc
В статистике заданий увидел новую версию. Скачал. Все узнает. Получил скорость как у нормального амбера :)
По памяти: 20 и 12 метров на разных типах заданий

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  letoon

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о... облажался малость, бывает-с
  Hil

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Алексей.М
Алексей.М писал(а):
Hil Непомогает..от 1,000 до 8,000 ппд у каждого GPU вместо 10,000
В смысле - не помогает? Что именно? Поставить тип 1 и стереть нынешнее задание - новое придёт на другое ядро или то же самое опять? И если развести WinAFC на разные ядра ПротоМол и GPU - тоже не помогает? А точно развелось?

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  Алексей.М

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Hil
Пока просто тип 1 проставил и приоритет 1-непомогает
Щас грохнуть задание попробую

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  targitaj

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Алексей.М
Ты еще легко отделался. Я минут 5 только диспетчер задач запускал.

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  Hil

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Алексей.М
Как бы сначала надо выключить клиент, задание грохнуть, потом поставить другой тип в конфиге, потом запустить клиент и он закачает задание.
P.S. У меня считается жаба № 10000 протомол, никаких тормозов и памяти использует чуть.

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  Алексей.М

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Hil Раздал другие задания,падения ппд нет.
Спасиб за помощь капитан :beer:

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  RU_ZaBoR

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Всем доброй ночи!

Вопрос №1
Случилась у меня бяда: напал на меня этот новый ProtoMol.
Ядрышко сгрузилось, задание запустилось с немыслимыми параметрами, но на нулевом цикле критическая ошибка и авторестарт клиента:
Код:
[18:46:06] + Number of Units Completed: 651

[18:46:10] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:46:10] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:46:10] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:46:12] - Successful: assigned to (129.74.85.48).
[18:46:12] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:46:12] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:46:14] + Closed connections
[18:46:14]
[18:46:14] + Processing work unit
[18:46:14] Core required: FahCore_b4.exe
[18:46:14] Core not found.
[18:46:14] - Core is not present or corrupted.
[18:46:14] - Attempting to download new core...
[18:46:14] + Downloading new core: FahCore_b4.exe
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[18:47:07] Verifying core Core_b4.fah...
[18:47:07] Signature is VALID
[18:47:07]
[18:47:07] Trying to unzip core FahCore_b4.exe
[18:47:17] Decompressed FahCore_b4.exe (16222720 bytes) successfully
[18:47:17] + Core successfully engaged
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[18:47:22] + Processing work unit
[18:47:22] Core required: FahCore_b4.exe
[18:47:22] Core found.
[18:47:22] Working on Unit 08 [December 22 18:47:22]
[18:47:22] + Working ...
[18:47:27] *********************** Log Started 22/Dec/2009 18:47:27 ***********************
[18:47:27] ************************** ProtoMol Folding@Home Core **************************
[18:47:27]   Version: 19
[18:47:27]      Type: 180
[18:47:27]      Core: ProtoMol
[18:47:27]   Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
[18:47:27] Copyright: (c) 2009 Stanford University
[18:47:27]    Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
[18:47:27]      Args: -dir work/ -suffix 08 -priority 96 -cpu 96 -checkpoint 10 -service
[18:47:27]            -lifeline 2300 -version 504
[18:47:27]
[18:47:27] ************************************ Build *************************************
[18:47:27]      Date: Dec 16 2009
[18:47:27]      Time: 17:02:04
[18:47:27]  Revision: 1746
[18:47:27]  Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1110
[18:47:27]   Options: /TP /nologo /EHsc /wd4297 /wd4103 /wd1786 /arch:IA32 /Ox
[18:47:27]            /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qrestrict /MT
[18:47:27]  Platform: Windows XP
[18:47:27]      Bits: 32
[18:47:27] ************************************ System ************************************
[18:47:27]        OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[18:47:27]       CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
[18:47:27]    CPU ID: AuthenticAMD Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0
[18:47:27]      CPUs: 1 Logical, 1 Physical
[18:47:27]    Memory: 2.00 GB
[18:47:27] ********************************************************************************
[18:47:27] Project: 10001 (Run 850, Clone 1, Gen 1)
[18:47:27] Reading tar file par_all27_prot_lipid.inp
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[18:47:27] Digital signatures verified
[18:47:29] Completed 0 out of 200000 steps (0)
[21:03:22] CoreStatus = C000001D (-1073741795)
[21:03:22] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xc000001d
[21:03:22] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[21:03:30] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[21:03:30] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:03:30] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:03:31] - Successful: assigned to (129.74.85.48).
[21:03:31] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[21:03:31] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:03:33] + Closed connections
[21:03:38]
[21:03:38] + Processing work unit
[21:03:38] Core required: FahCore_b4.exe
[21:03:38] Core found.
[21:03:38] Working on Unit 09 [December 22 21:03:38]
[21:03:38] + Working ...
[21:03:40] *********************** Log Started 22/Dec/2009 21:03:40 ***********************
[21:03:40] ************************** ProtoMol Folding@Home Core **************************
[21:03:40]   Version: 19
[21:03:40]      Type: 180
[21:03:40]      Core: ProtoMol
[21:03:40]   Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
[21:03:40] Copyright: (c) 2009 Stanford University
[21:03:40]    Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
[21:03:40]      Args: -dir work/ -suffix 09 -priority 96 -cpu 96 -checkpoint 10 -service
[21:03:40]            -lifeline 2300 -version 504
[21:03:40]
[21:03:40] ************************************ Build *************************************
[21:03:40]      Date: Dec 16 2009
[21:03:40]      Time: 17:02:04
[21:03:40]  Revision: 1746
[21:03:40]  Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1110
[21:03:40]   Options: /TP /nologo /EHsc /wd4297 /wd4103 /wd1786 /arch:IA32 /Ox
[21:03:40]            /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qrestrict /MT
[21:03:40]  Platform: Windows XP
[21:03:40]      Bits: 32
[21:03:40] ************************************ System ************************************
[21:03:40]        OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[21:03:40]       CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
[21:03:40]    CPU ID: AuthenticAMD Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0
[21:03:40]      CPUs: 1 Logical, 1 Physical
[21:03:40]    Memory: 2.00 GB
[21:03:40] ********************************************************************************
[21:03:40] Project: 10001 (Run 850, Clone 1, Gen 1)
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[21:03:40] Digital signatures verified
[21:03:41] Completed 0 out of 200000 steps (0)
[21:03:56] CoreStatus = C000001D (-1073741795)
[21:03:56] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xc000001d
[21:03:56] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[21:04:02] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[21:04:02] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:04:02] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:04:03] - Successful: assigned to (129.74.85.48).
[21:04:03] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[21:04:04] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:04:06] + Closed connections
[21:04:11]
[21:04:11] + Processing work unit
[21:04:11] Core required: FahCore_b4.exe
[21:04:11] Core found.
[21:04:11] Working on Unit 00 [December 22 21:04:11]
[21:04:11] + Working ...
[21:04:13] *********************** Log Started 22/Dec/2009 21:04:13 ***********************
[21:04:13] ************************** ProtoMol Folding@Home Core **************************
[21:04:13]   Version: 19
[21:04:13]      Type: 180
[21:04:13]      Core: ProtoMol
[21:04:13]   Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
[21:04:13] Copyright: (c) 2009 Stanford University
[21:04:13]    Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
[21:04:13]      Args: -dir work/ -suffix 00 -priority 96 -cpu 96 -checkpoint 10 -service
[21:04:13]            -lifeline 2300 -version 504
[21:04:13]
[21:04:13] ************************************ Build *************************************
[21:04:13]      Date: Dec 16 2009
[21:04:13]      Time: 17:02:04
[21:04:13]  Revision: 1746
[21:04:13]  Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1110
[21:04:13]   Options: /TP /nologo /EHsc /wd4297 /wd4103 /wd1786 /arch:IA32 /Ox
[21:04:13]            /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qrestrict /MT
[21:04:13]  Platform: Windows XP
[21:04:13]      Bits: 32
[21:04:13] ************************************ System ************************************
[21:04:13]        OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[21:04:13]       CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
[21:04:13]    CPU ID: AuthenticAMD Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0
[21:04:13]      CPUs: 1 Logical, 1 Physical
[21:04:13]    Memory: 2.00 GB
[21:04:13] ********************************************************************************
[21:04:13] Project: 10001 (Run 850, Clone 1, Gen 1)
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[21:10:21] CoreStatus = C000001D (-1073741795)
[21:10:21] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xc000001d
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[21:10:40] Verifying core Core_b4.fah...
[21:10:40] Signature is VALID
[21:10:40]
[21:10:40] Trying to unzip core FahCore_b4.exe
[21:10:52] Decompressed FahCore_b4.exe (16222720 bytes) successfully
[21:10:52] + Core successfully engaged
[21:10:52] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[21:11:02] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[21:11:02] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:11:02] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:11:03] - Successful: assigned to (129.74.85.48).
[21:11:03] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[21:11:03] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:11:05] + Closed connections
[21:11:10]
[21:11:10] + Processing work unit
[21:11:10] Core required: FahCore_b4.exe
[21:11:10] Core found.
[21:11:10] Working on Unit 01 [December 22 21:11:10]
[21:11:10] + Working ...
[21:11:12] *********************** Log Started 22/Dec/2009 21:11:12 ***********************
[21:11:12] ************************** ProtoMol Folding@Home Core **************************
[21:11:12]   Version: 19
[21:11:12]      Type: 180
[21:11:12]      Core: ProtoMol
[21:11:12]   Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
[21:11:12] Copyright: (c) 2009 Stanford University
[21:11:12]    Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
[21:11:12]      Args: -dir work/ -suffix 01 -priority 96 -cpu 96 -checkpoint 10 -service
[21:11:12]            -lifeline 2300 -version 504
[21:11:12]
[21:11:12] ************************************ Build *************************************
[21:11:12]      Date: Dec 16 2009
[21:11:12]      Time: 17:02:04
[21:11:12]  Revision: 1746
[21:11:12]  Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1110
[21:11:12]   Options: /TP /nologo /EHsc /wd4297 /wd4103 /wd1786 /arch:IA32 /Ox
[21:11:12]            /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qrestrict /MT
[21:11:12]  Platform: Windows XP
[21:11:12]      Bits: 32
[21:11:12] ************************************ System ************************************
[21:11:12]        OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[21:11:12]       CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
[21:11:12]    CPU ID: AuthenticAMD Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0
[21:11:12]      CPUs: 1 Logical, 1 Physical
[21:11:12]    Memory: 2.00 GB
[21:11:12] ********************************************************************************
[21:11:12] Project: 10001 (Run 850, Clone 1, Gen 1)
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[21:11:12] Digital signatures verified
[21:11:13] Completed 0 out of 200000 steps (0)
[21:11:25] Service stop request received.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.


На foldingforum.org подобная ошибка обсуждается в разрезе nvidia-фолдинга. И пока там не пришли к финальному решению, насколько я прочел. Почитав последние странички соседних тем, пришел к выводу что виноват type=3 и его надо занулить (цитата), чтобы отрезать путь b4 на комп. Я сторонник концепции "настроил и забыл", не совсем понимаю как можно "гоняться" за определёнными типами жаб и размеров (наверное, я что то упустил в своей жизни :spy: ).
В логах меня смущает строчка:
Options: /TP /nologo /EHsc /wd4297 /wd4103 /wd1786 /arch:IA32 /Ox /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qrestrict /MT
Мой процессор Athlon XP 2500+ не поддерживает SSE выше 1.
Мб падения вызваны этим? Что думаете? Мне менять теперь type=3 на type=0?

Вопрос №2
Я не обновил пока комп, но купил новую видюху XFX Radeon HD 4650. По идее, на неё бы запустить ATI Folding. Но немного покурив FAQи (к сожалению, после покупки) я нашел, что для GPU фолдинга нужен ещё проц с минимум SSE2 (цитата). А на Socket A процов с таковыми инструкциями не выпускалось (цитата, найти по словам "sse2").
Выходит, что я зря потратил деньги на видяху?
  krasbars

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RU_ZaBoR писал(а):
Я сторонник концепции "настроил и забыл", не совсем понимаю как можно "гоняться" за определёнными типами жаб и размеров (наверное, я что то упустил в своей жизни :spy: ).

Однако, ортодокс!
Я думаю, вопрос следует адресовать конкретно Таргитаю и Хилу. :lol:
  RU_ZaBoR

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Однако, ортодокс!

Хмф. А интересно, мб это из-за версии самого клиента F@H?
Код:
# Windows Console Edition #####################################################
###############################################################################

                       Folding@Home Client Version 5.04beta

                          http://folding.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################

Трабла в том, что такие же клиенты стоят на ферме, которая мне не доступна. Значит, они все умрут под b4...

Попробую обновиться до 6.23.

UPDATED:
Перевёл домашнюю машинку на 6.23 с passkeyем. Перезапустил. Пока считает задание, которое получил на type=0:
Цитата:
Конфигурация: Athlon XP 2500+, DDR 2048Mb, WinXP SP3, 1 client
Номер задачи: 4440 (145-0-56)
Имя задачи: p4440_Seq42_Amber03
Размер задачи: 232,6 КБ
Размер результата:
Очки: 225
Фреймы: 100
Ядро: GROMACS
IP сервера: 171.67.108.13
Очков в час: 4,41
Очков в сутки: 106
Ср. время на шаг: 0:30:35
Client.cfg: bigpackets=big, type=3, cpuusage=96
Завершено: 10%
FahSpy 2.0.0
  Hil

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krasbars
какой именно вопрос? В сообщении нет вопроса, есть утверждение.

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  Fergity

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Вопрос вытекает из фразы "я не понимаю, как..." (со слова "как" начинается сам вопрос). Но я не об этом. Хватит ругаться. Как (когда-то давно) писАл krasbars, давайте жить дружно ;)

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  Vadaki

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Второй день с GPU-клиентом происходит какая-то лажа: частоты чипа в норме, но загрузка, судя по всему (кулер не разгоняется и температура всего 60 градусов), далека от максимума. Процент задания высчитывается за 5-8 минут.
Вопрос: такая фигня может происходить из-за того, что проц высчитывает сейчас многоупомянутые всуе задания типа b4? Или надо где-то еще копать?

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  ostgp

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Vadaki Может быть, жабы на 1888 очков, они несильно греют видеокарту и время на шаг у них похожее - 5-7 мин.
  Vadaki

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ОК. Спасибо! Буду наблюдать за пациентом дальше. :)

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  Hil

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Fergity
Это не я напиваюсь и пишу какую-то чушь в форумах. Не я хожу за krasbars и подначиваю его по любому поводу. Так что "ХВАТИТ" надо говорить не мне, ОК?

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  Fergity

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Hil, Ок.
Прошу меня простить, если я испортил тебе настроение. А "хватит" я говорю обоим ;) и сам постараюсь держать себя в руках

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  Gulin176

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Откуда: Киров
подскажите мне.стоит фахспи.в локалке работает клиент.пытаясь указать на него спрашивает какой то логин и пароль но я его не знаю.хотя всё моё и ставлено всё мною.путешествуя по сетевым папкам ничего не спрашивает,никаких паролей.
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