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Откуда: TSC! | Москва
Обсуждаем проект Folding@Home.
Номер нашей команды: 47191
Страница регистрации в проекте F@H: https://apps.foldingathome.org/getpasskey Обязательна для получения бонусных очков
По вопросам работы универсального клиента обращайтесь в соответствующие ветки:
Универсальный (SMP+GPU) клиент v.7
Folding@Home под Linux
Статистика заданий и рекорды команды: [F@H] Статистика заданий
В этой ветке все о мониторинге клиента FAH http://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic ... 1&t=122378
Статусы основных серверов F@h: https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats
Список текущих проектов: https://apps.foldingathome.org/psummary?visibility=ALL
Статистика команды на сайте extremeoverclocking.com: https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com ... s=&t=47191
Статистика по общему количеству CPU\GPU, мощности проекта: https://stats.foldingathome.org/os
Статистика по отдельным картам и процессорам в проекте: https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/overall_ranks
Официальный форум проекта: https://foldingforum.org
Мы в Telegram - https://t.me/TSCRussia


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  Behc

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Александр Стариков
Лог в студию. Просто так задание по окончанию счета не неотправляется.

Добавлено спустя 33 минуты 18 секунд:
Niko-zhukov писал(а):
Только у меня ядро неопознаётся? :fingal: Это уже на домашнем :(
Это глюки в списке заданий проекта:
Цитата:
6900 130.237.232.141 p6900_Generated by trjconv : SINGLE VESICLE in water t= 5000.00000 1098185 4.00 6.00 8955.00 100 UNLISTED Description kasson 26.40

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  Александр Стариков

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Нашёл, попытка сдачи была. Но лишь один раз после окончания. Прошли почти сутки, а второй попытки не было.
Код:
[22:36:17] Completed 245000 out of 250000 steps  (98%)
[23:11:18] Completed 247500 out of 250000 steps  (99%)
[23:47:09] Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps  (100%)
[23:47:20] DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
[23:47:30]
[23:47:30] Finished Work Unit:
[23:47:30] - Reading up to 52713120 from "work/wudata_01.trr": Read 52713120
[23:47:31] trr file hash check passed.
[23:47:31] - Reading up to 47026556 from "work/wudata_01.xtc": Read 47026556
[23:47:32] xtc file hash check passed.
[23:47:32] edr file hash check passed.
[23:47:32] logfile size: 206903
[23:47:32] Leaving Run
[23:47:34] - Writing 100114519 bytes of core data to disk...
[23:48:19] Done: 100114007 -> 96632593 (compressed to 10.7 percent)
[23:48:20]   ... Done.
[23:48:29] - Shutting down core
[23:48:29]
[23:48:29] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[23:48:33] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[23:48:33] Sending work to server
[23:48:33] Project: 6901 (Run 19, Clone 11, Gen 1)


[b][23:48:33] + Attempting to send results [March 1 23:48:33 UTC]
[00:18:20] - Server reports problem with unit.[/b]
[00:18:20] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[00:18:20] Cleaning up work directory
[00:18:20] + Attempting to get work packet
[00:18:20] Passkey found
[00:18:20] - Connecting to assignment server
[00:18:22] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.108.22).
[00:18:22] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[00:18:22] Loaded queue successfully.
[00:23:06] + Closed connections
[00:23:06]
[00:23:06] + Processing work unit
[00:23:06] Core required: FahCore_a5.exe
[00:23:06] Core found.
[00:23:06] Working on queue slot 02 [March 2 00:23:06 UTC]
[00:23:06] + Working ...
[00:23:07]
[00:23:07] *------------------------------*
[00:23:07] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[00:23:07] Version 2.27 (Mar 12, 2010)
[00:23:07]
[00:23:07] Preparing to commence simulation
[00:23:07] - Looking at optimizations...
[00:23:07] - Created dyn
[00:23:07] - Files status OK
[00:23:12] - Expanded 24824874 -> 30791309 (decompressed 124.0 percent)
[00:23:12] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=24824874 data_size=30791309, decompressed_data_size=30791309 diff=0
[00:23:12] - Digital signature verified
[00:23:12]
[00:23:12] Project: 2684 (Run 2, Clone 10, Gen 62)
[00:23:12]
[00:23:12] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[00:23:12] Entering M.D.
[00:23:18] Mapping NT from 8 to 8
[00:23:22] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps  (0%)
[01:07:23] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps  (1%)
[01:51:57] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps  (2%)
[02:37:08] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps  (3%)


Потом, была вот такая хрень...
Код:
Launch directory: D:\Program Files\Folding@home SMP
Executable: D:\Program Files\Folding@home SMP\FAH SMP.exe
Arguments: -smp -send all -smp -bigadv

[18:00:10] - Ask before connecting: No
[18:00:10] - User name: Alexander_Starikov (Team 47191)
[18:00:10] - User ID: 4B9B0E311982F151
[18:00:10] - Machine ID: 1
[18:00:10]
[18:00:10] Loaded queue successfully.
[b][18:00:10] Attempting to return result(s) to server...

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.[/b]

И клиент благополучно вырубался.

И вот наконец, задание сдалось, правда очки мне не засчитали.
Цитата:
[18:47:16] + Attempting to send results [March 2 18:47:16 UTC]
[18:47:17] + Results successfully sent
[18:47:17] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[18:47:21] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:47:21] Cleaning up work directory
[18:47:21] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:47:21] Passkey found
[18:47:21] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:47:22] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.54).
[18:47:22] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:47:22] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:47:32] + Closed connections
[18:47:37]
[18:47:37] + Processing work unit
[18:47:37] Core required: FahCore_a3.exe
[18:47:37] Core found.
[18:47:37] Working on queue slot 06 [March 2 18:47:37 UTC]
[18:47:37] + Working ...
[18:47:37]
[18:47:37] *------------------------------*
[18:47:37] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[18:47:37] Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
[18:47:37]
[18:47:37] Preparing to commence simulation
[18:47:37] - Looking at optimizations...
[18:47:37] - Created dyn
[18:47:37] - Files status OK
[18:47:38] - Expanded 1764353 -> 2250393 (decompressed 127.5 percent)
[18:47:38] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=1764353 data_size=2250393, decompressed_data_size=2250393 diff=0
[18:47:38] - Digital signature verified
[18:47:38]
[18:47:38] Project: 6058 (Run 0, Clone 12, Gen 315)
[18:47:38]
[18:47:38] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[18:47:38] Entering M.D.
[18:47:44] Mapping NT from 8 to 8
[18:47:44] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps (0%)
  Behc

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[00:18:20] - Server reports problem with unit.
Думаю из-за этого проблемы, похоже, что сервер просто сглючил.

Советую клиента до версии 6.34 обновить, иначе БЖ приходить не будут.

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  noname2

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Александр Стариков
Была похожая "проблема" на GPU. Не знаю, кто сглючил и засчитались ли очки, но результат лежал в папке WORK и фахспай светил красным. ИМХО, эту строчку (Server reports problem with unit.) просто необходимо подсветить красным в FahSpy.

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  Александр Стариков

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Behc
Собственно клиент у меня v6.34 - свежеустановленный на новую систему. Убрал из файла конфига ключ -bigadv начал получать задания на ядре А3. Скорость правда около 18000ppd, против 30000 на этой незачтённой бигжабе.
  Behc

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Александр Стариков
А ключ-то зачем убрал? С ним на новом клиенте нормально БЖ получаются.

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  anubias

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spider66 писал(а):
Кто помнит, с каким ключем надо запускать фолдинг, чтобы остановился после отправки обсчитанного задания и не скачивал новое???

-oneunit

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  corsi

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Народ, если я с помощью WinAFC назначил 7 ядер для виртуалки, то в виртуалке надо ставить -smp 7 в настройках клиента или нет? :)

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  spider66

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anubias
Цитата:
-oneunit
Спасибо, док. А то я уже сомневацца стал почти во всём. Старею :rip:

Вот мне интересно, если сервера у докторов лежат, БигЖаба, которая вот-вот должна уйти потеряется или как? Или тормознуть до стабилизации положения? Так она же протухнет...
  malTTa

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spider66 писал(а):
сервера у докторов лежат

Да вроде норально всё с 171.67.108.22, 130.237.232.141 и 130.237.232.237, если серверстат не врёт. :hitrost:

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  anubias

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corsi писал(а):
Народ, если я с помощью WinAFC назначил 7 ядер для виртуалки, то в виртуалке надо ставить -smp 7 в настройках клиента или нет? :)

Да.

Добавлено спустя 1 минуту 44 секунды:
Не обратил внимания, что в виртуалке. :grob: А зачем она?

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  Куба

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Да.

Если это делаю в винде, то загрузка smp-клиента, как и без WinAFC - 83%, если ставлю просто -smp загрузка 91%, но ппд вообще отстойный...

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  Niko-zhukov

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Б..., У меня жаба отправлялась и свет моргнул. :bandhead: :gun: , после перезапуска папка ворк пустая. в логе:
Цитата:
[13:54:40] Completed 247500 out of 250000 steps (99%)
[14:31:05] Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps (100%)
[14:31:20] DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
[14:31:30]
[14:31:30] Finished Work Unit:
[14:31:30] - Reading up to 52713120 from "work/wudata_05.trr": Read 52713120
[14:31:30] trr file hash check passed.
[14:31:30] - Reading up to 47068884 from "work/wudata_05.xtc": Read 47068884
[14:31:31] xtc file hash check passed.
[14:31:31] edr file hash check passed.
[14:31:31] logfile size: 209304
[14:31:31] Leaving Run
[14:31:32] - Writing 100159248 bytes of core data to disk...
[14:31:34] ... Done.
[14:31:49] - Shutting down core
[14:31:49]
[14:31:49] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[14:31:54] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[14:31:54] Unit 5 finished with 58 percent of time to deadline remaining.
[14:31:54] Updated performance fraction: 0.565930
[14:31:54] Sending work to server
[14:31:54] Project: 6900 (Run 44, Clone 11, Gen 15)


[14:31:54] + Attempting to send results [March 4 14:31:54 UTC]
[14:31:54] - Reading file work/wuresults_05.dat from core
[14:31:54] (Read 100159248 bytes from disk)

и потОм
Executable: C:\Users\Public\smp\Folding@home-Win32-x86.exe
Arguments: -smp 8 -local -verbosity 9 -forceasm -verbosity 9 -local -smp 8 -bigadv
[19:20:16] - Ask before connecting: No
[19:20:16] - User name: HMAO_TSC!Russia (Team 47191)
[19:20:16] - User ID: 29557D9C5DE0DDD2
[19:20:16] - Machine ID: 2
[19:20:16]
[19:20:16] Loaded queue successfully.
[19:20:16] Unit 5's deadline (March 8 01:21) has passed.
[19:20:20] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[19:20:20] - Autosending finished units... [June 17 19:20:20 UTC]
[19:20:20] Cleaning up work directory
[19:20:20] Trying to send all finished work units
[19:20:20] + Attempting to get work packet
[19:20:20] + No unsent completed units remaining.
[19:20:20] Passkey found
[19:20:20] - Autosend completed
[19:20:20] - Will indicate memory of 6135 MB
[19:20:20] - Detect CPU. Vendor: GenuineIntel, Family: 6, Model: 10, Stepping: 5
[19:20:20] - Connecting to assignment server
[19:20:20] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/
[19:20:22] Posted data.
[19:20:22] Initial: 8F80; - Successful: assigned to (128.143.199.96).
[19:20:22] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[19:20:22] Loaded queue successfully.
[19:20:22] Connecting to http://128.143.199.96:8080/
[19:20:23] Posted data.
[19:20:23] Initial: 0000; - Receiving payload (expected size: 1773327)
[19:20:30] - Downloaded at ~247 kB/s
[19:20:30] - Averaged speed for that direction ~248 kB/s
[19:20:30] + Received work.
[19:20:30] + Closed connections
[19:20:30]
[19:20:30] + Processing work unit
[19:20:30] Core required: FahCore_a3.exe
[19:20:30] Core found.
[19:20:30] Working on queue slot 06 [June 17 19:20:30 UTC]
[19:20:30] + Working ...
[19:20:30] - Calling '.\FahCore_a3.exe -dir work/ -nice 19 -suffix 06 -np 8 -checkpoint 15 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 3684 -version 629'
[19:20:31]
[19:20:31] *------------------------------*
[19:20:31] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[19:20:31] Version 2.19 (Mar 12, 2010)
[19:20:31]
[19:20:31] Preparing to commence simulation
[19:20:31] - Assembly optimizations manually forced on.
[19:20:31] - Not checking prior termination.
[19:20:31] Need version 227
[19:20:31] Error: Work unit read from disk is invalid
[19:20:31]
[19:20:31] Folding@home Core Shutdown: CORE_OUTDATED
[19:20:35] CoreStatus = 6E (110)
[19:20:35] + Core out of date. Auto updating...
[19:20:35] - Attempting to download new core...
[19:20:35] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a3.exe
[19:20:35] Downloading core (/~pande/Win32/x86/Core_a3.fah from http://www.stanford.edu)
[19:20:35] Initial: AFDE; + 10240 bytes downloaded
[19:20:36] Initial: 0E39; + 20480 bytes downloaded
[19:20:36] Initial: FD05; + 30720 bytes downloaded
[19:20:36] Initial: 3169; + 40960 bytes downloaded
[19:20:36] Initial: C7C8; + 51200 bytes downloaded
[19:20:36] Initial: E16F; + 61440 bytes downloaded
[19:20:36] Initial: 8EA9; + 71680 bytes downloaded
[19:20:36] Initial: 8FB9; + 81920 bytes downloaded
[19:20:36] Initial: 5E60; + 92160 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: 8473; + 102400 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: A3B5; + 112640 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: 367E; + 122880 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: D002; + 133120 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: 2639; + 143360 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: 90D0; + 153600 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: 0A62; + 163840 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: E68C; + 174080 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: 815E; + 184320 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: 5173; + 194560 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: 21C1; + 204800 bytes downloaded
[19:20:37] Initial: 11FB; + 215040 bytes downloaded
[19:20:38] Initial: CF13; + 225280 bytes downloaded
[19:20:38] Initial: 8B3F; + 235520 bytes downloaded
[19:20:38] Initial: 5947; + 245760 bytes downloaded
[19:20:38] Initial: B552; + 256000 bytes downloaded
[19:20:38] Initial: 8A01; + 266240 bytes downloaded
[19:20:38] Initial: 6BC7; + 276480 bytes downloaded
[19:20:38] Initial: 0510; + 286720 bytes downloaded
[19:20:38] Initial: 8DC0; + 296960 bytes downloaded
[19:20:38] Initial: 9DD4; + 307200 bytes downloaded
[19:20:38] Initial: 709B; + 317440 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: 9EA5; + 327680 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: 5132; + 337920 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: 2499; + 348160 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: 003A; + 358400 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: 1440; + 368640 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: 78A5; + 378880 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: F89C; + 389120 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: 9CC8; + 399360 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: 92DF; + 409600 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: A690; + 419840 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: 67E5; + 430080 bytes downloaded
[19:20:39] Initial: B274; + 440320 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: DC44; + 450560 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: 650F; + 460800 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: 45F8; + 471040 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: 45B2; + 481280 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: 94E2; + 491520 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: 2283; + 501760 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: 65A7; + 512000 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: 6486; + 522240 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: BD5F; + 532480 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: 7EDC; + 542720 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: 190C; + 552960 bytes downloaded
[19:20:40] Initial: B535; + 563200 bytes downloaded
[19:20:41] Initial: ED7E; + 573440 bytes downloaded
[19:20:41] Initial: A0BB; + 583680 bytes downloaded
[19:20:41] Initial: C898; + 593920 bytes downloaded
[19:20:41] Initial: 955D; + 604160 bytes downloaded
[19:20:41] Initial: A17E; + 614400 bytes downloaded
[19:20:41] Initial: A89D; + 624640 bytes downloaded
[19:20:41] Initial: 8B70; + 634880 bytes downloaded
[19:20:41] Initial: 514F; + 645120 bytes downloaded
[19:20:41] Initial: FAC9; + 655360 bytes downloaded
[19:20:42] Initial: 4820; + 665600 bytes downloaded
[19:20:42] Initial: 3A9C; + 675840 bytes downloaded
[19:20:42] Initial: 4DB1; + 686080 bytes downloaded
[19:20:42] Initial: D738; + 696320 bytes downloaded
[19:20:42] Initial: E2B6; + 706560 bytes downloaded
[19:20:42] Initial: CF9F; + 716800 bytes downloaded
[19:20:42] Initial: 151B; + 727040 bytes downloaded
[19:20:42] Initial: 4A6B; + 737280 bytes downloaded
[19:20:42] Initial: 2F85; + 747520 bytes downloaded
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[19:21:03] Verifying core Core_a3.fah...
[19:21:03] Signature is VALID
[19:21:03]
[19:21:03] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a3.exe
[19:21:03] Decompressed FahCore_a3.exe (10057216 bytes) successfully
[19:21:08] + Core successfully engaged
[19:21:13]
[19:21:13] + Processing work unit
[19:21:13] Core required: FahCore_a3.exe
[19:21:13] Core found.
[19:21:13] Working on queue slot 06 [June 17 19:21:13 UTC]
[19:21:13] + Working ...
[19:21:13] - Calling '.\FahCore_a3.exe -dir work/ -nice 19 -suffix 06 -np 8 -checkpoint 15 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 3684 -version 629'
[19:21:14]
[19:21:14] *------------------------------*
[19:21:14] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[19:21:14] Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
[19:21:14]
[19:21:14] Preparing to commence simulation
[19:21:14] - Assembly optimizations manually forced on.
[19:21:14] - Not checking prior termination.
[19:21:14] - Expanded 1772815 -> 1970140 (decompressed 111.1 percent)
[19:21:14] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=1772815 data_size=1970140, decompressed_data_size=1970140 diff=0
[19:21:14] - Digital signature verified
[19:21:14]
[19:21:14] Project: 7121 (Run 0, Clone 5, Gen 3)
[19:21:14]
[19:21:14] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[19:21:14] Entering M.D.
[19:21:20] Mapping NT from 8 to 8
[19:21:20] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps (0%)

Т.Е. отправки вроде не біло, и сигнала о принятии нет. а файла с результатом тю-тю :weep:
Усё, ДА!?
  malTTa

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Niko-zhukov писал(а):
Усё, ДА!?

Скорее всего, бывает... :fingal:

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  corsi

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anubias писал(а):
Не обратил внимания, что в виртуалке. :grob: А зачем она?

Чтобы научиться дыжать *опой, прежде чем нос зашивать - т.е. готовлюсь к переходу на линукс. :) Пока так - хост-система XP x86 c i7@3.82 и 4 Гб памяти, и VirtualBox + Ubuntu 10.10. Так вот, при этом кошмаре в 8 потоков время на шаг 32 минуты, т.е. 34к PPD. :)
Но тормозит все... ужс. :)

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  sco01

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noname2
доктора никогда не скрывали избыточность проекта.. Если она будет низкая невозможно будет отсеять читеров и брак из-за разогнанный невмеру машин...

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  Behc

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sco01
Уже обсуждалось, не нужна избыточность и так отсеять можно.

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  noname2

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Behc
А как проверить правильность расчетов каждого задания? Без одного пазла нет и всей мозаики. Хотя бы для этого она уже нужна.

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  Behc

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noname2
Почитай о математической статистике и достоверности результатов.
Всё, больше ничего желания объяснять нет в этом плане.

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  sco01

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Behc
математическая статистика в биологии?? :?:

если бы все так делали до сих пор даже пеницилин не изобрели бы...

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